Bernie Bots don't know what they're voting for

Politics
#1

59% don’t understand his Medicare for all program - and that’s his most known of all his policies :hushed:

"In early-voting states, Sanders has gotten the largest portion of voters who support a single-payer health care plan such as Medicare for all. But many voters seem to be unclear about what that plan would do, especially regarding the employer-provided insurance that already covers some of them.

Polling by the Kaiser Family Foundation shows that more than half of people who support Medicare for all don’t realize it would eliminate private insurance. In a January survey, 59% of respondents who support Medicare for all said, incorrectly, that people with insurance through an employer would be able to keep it. That’s much larger than the 34% who said correctly there’d be no employer-provided insurance under Medicare for all.

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#2

I’m not sure if enough voters know or understand what they’re voting on in general.

#3

This is probably true. However, he’s no more honest than anyone else.

I remember when he used to rail on millionaires, but now that he’s one of them, he’s calling out billionaires.

#4

I know I’m not voting for a pedophile if I vote for Bernie.

I also know that the ROI on a medicare for all program is beneficial to everyone that isn’t rich. Also good for capitalism, as a whole.

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#6

A, The Majority of Americans have at least “some” health insurance.

  1. The #1 reason for personal bankruptcies in America is health emergencies, roughly 60%
#7

B, People stick it at their dead end, lower paying jobs because they’re afraid they’ll lose their healthcare.

#8

C, People don’t start their own businesses because they’re afraid of losing health care

#9

D: The idiot box told me it’s evil soshilism and so I will stick with my “wait until I’m almost dead and then go to the ER on someone else’s nickel” health care plan

#10

The only time I have ever heard anyone say anything like that, was when there was a sick family member (spouse or child) that wouldn’t be covered under a new plan, due to the preexisting condition dealio.

#11

It’s not a question of Bernie’s honesty, he has been open and outspoken about his positions.

It’s a question of voter ignorance which, sadly, is endemic in American politics.

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Biden hates weed… gotta keep the status quo!

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#13

But once they get all the information they change their minds.

#14

No one can explain how Bernie’s proposals will be paid for at the other forum. How about at this forum?

#15

Picture a pie, and if you will for the moment think of the pie as the usa’s economy, and lets say your pie has one slice cut out of it. that slice is 18% of the Pie, That 18% slice is what we now spend as a % of GDP on Healthcare in the USA, if we cut out the grossly overcompensated overhead of highly paid suits, and go single payer if we are as successful as most other countries around the world we end up only have to spend roughly 11% of our GDP, that is equal to a growth of 7% in the GDP (Because of the 7% extra GDP Cash in circulation that is now being “repurposed” which would be double the growth rate that we’ve been averaging for several years now, by freeing up the cash that was supporting the huge “Premium” on our healthcare.

The majority of Americans have some form of health insurance. yet the #1 reason for personal bankruptcy is a health care emergency, averaging about 60% of all bk’s Think of the huge collateral savings from a whole bunch of your friends and neighbors right there.

#16

The healthcare slice is now only 11% of the total economy, leaving the 7% “slice” of gdp to be reallocated into other sectors of the economy, be it, lower taxes, or increased wages, or more social programs or bigger bombs or wtf maybe even on education, whatev.

#17

Where did you get the figure of 11%?

#18

That is a rough avg. of what most other oecd countries spend on healthcare as a % of their respective gdp.

I haven’t looked that up recently but that is pretty close to the relative avg.s between us and the rest of the G20 world.I know our 18% Cost is pretty close.

#19

They’re populations are much smaller and probably healthier. So, that’s not necessarily a valid comparison.

#20

Macro is macro, minor culture differences between Germany and America and Japan won’t change health stats all that much on avg.